Comments on: Pissy Poodles Can’t Be Angry Journalists http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/ studying the media ecosystem Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:55:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Tom Abate http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-85263 Tom Abate Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:02:58 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-85263 Maryann Thanks for your lovely note. I am through the worst of it and on a much more positive path toward the same goal that you desire -- a more useful and realistic form of journalism that helps us run our lives and our country, and understand our world. It is so uplifting to hear from you because I *know:* there must be many, many people who desire exactly what you expressed. And to hear even your one voice reinforces my conviction and resolve to work, patiently but persistently, to bring into being a more participatory form of media. Thank you and God bless you! Tom Abate Maryann

Thanks for your lovely note.

I am through the worst of it and on a much more positive path toward the same goal that you desire — a more useful and realistic form of journalism that helps us run our lives and our country, and understand our world. It is so uplifting to hear from you because I *know:* there must be many, many people who desire exactly what you expressed. And to hear even your one voice reinforces my conviction and resolve to work, patiently but persistently, to bring into being a more participatory form of media.

Thank you and God bless you!
Tom Abate

]]> By: maryann http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-85252 maryann Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:43:56 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-85252 Hi Tom, Not a journalist. We raise super nice puppies, one breed being the poodle - so that's how I got here. have to leave my comment, welcome or not. I'm just a regular person here, living in middle America. We do not watch TV, do not watch the news. It is so one-sided, it is sickening. Not sure what kind of stuff you write, you are the same age as my husband and I. I'd like to see True Journalism. Also, I'd like to see more positive reports of news items. Is it any wonder that we have all this horrible stuff going on?, when that is what gets attention for the last too many years. The trend needs to STOP. Talk about good things, leave the murders, the rapes, the awful things done to children right where they belong - in the police stations and courtrooms. Report about something good every day. I'm sure I am not the only one with that opinion. I love my 'job'. I get so much positive feedback, people love getting our puppies. They stay in touch, send me pictures. It is sharing love with others. Sorry to hear you are having it rough. Mary Ann www.hearthsidefamilypets.net Hi Tom,

Not a journalist. We raise super nice puppies, one breed being the poodle - so that’s how I got here. have to leave my comment, welcome or not.
I’m just a regular person here, living in middle America. We do not watch TV, do not watch the news. It is so one-sided, it is sickening. Not sure what kind of stuff you write, you are the same age as my husband and I.
I’d like to see True Journalism. Also, I’d like to see more positive reports of news items. Is it any wonder that we have all this horrible stuff going on?, when that is what gets attention for the last too many years. The trend needs to STOP. Talk about good things, leave the murders, the rapes, the awful things done to children right where they belong - in the police stations and courtrooms. Report about something good every day. I’m sure I am not the only one with that opinion.
I love my ‘job’. I get so much positive feedback, people love getting our puppies. They stay in touch, send me pictures. It is sharing love with others.
Sorry to hear you are having it rough.
Mary Ann
http://www.hearthsidefamilypets.net

]]> By: » The Pyramid and the Cloud MiniMediaGuy: ‘Cause if you ain’t Mass Media, you’re Mini Media http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-75637 » The Pyramid and the Cloud MiniMediaGuy: ‘Cause if you ain’t Mass Media, you’re Mini Media Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:54:36 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-75637 [...] from the 1960s television series, Get Smart. It would force rank-and-file journalists to complain out loud and generally behave like the heroes of newspaper epics such as His Girl Friday, or Inherit the [...] [...] from the 1960s television series, Get Smart. It would force rank-and-file journalists to complain out loud and generally behave like the heroes of newspaper epics such as His Girl Friday, or Inherit the [...]

]]> By: Jim Tucker http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74347 Jim Tucker Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:08:02 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74347 I'm a journalism teacher here at the bottom of the world (New Zealand) and I'm reading posts, blogs and stories like Tom's with growing alarm. Being this far out of the mainstream, we have an advantage - we can watch what the rest of the world does and when the trends hit here (the delay is getting shorter by the year) we try to avoid making your mistakes. The dilemma I face (after 25 years of journalism and 20 of teaching it) is what to tell aspiring students about the carnage going on in newsrooms overseas (at the beginning they're too busy on Bebo to look for themselves). Will there still be journalists? Presuming there will be (big media companies are starting to see the dangers of unmoderated contributions), what will they need to know? Common sense tells me that the basic tenets of journalism haven't actually changed that much - it's the delivery modes that have. The 24-hour news framework is now a 24-hours-a-day framework (no wonder crusty journo bars have died out, as one of Mark Hamilton's links told us). I went teaching when I was 40. I was a burnt-out editor who'd spent five years trying to rescue a metro evening daily. I thought I'd retire, but the super wasn't enough, so it was PR or teaching. An easy decision - and one I've never regretted. Think about a career change, Tom. Teaching journalism is being paid to rave on about your life's obsession. You're ready for it. I’m a journalism teacher here at the bottom of the world (New Zealand) and I’m reading posts, blogs and stories like Tom’s with growing alarm.
Being this far out of the mainstream, we have an advantage - we can watch what the rest of the world does and when the trends hit here (the delay is getting shorter by the year) we try to avoid making your mistakes.
The dilemma I face (after 25 years of journalism and 20 of teaching it) is what to tell aspiring students about the carnage going on in newsrooms overseas (at the beginning they’re too busy on Bebo to look for themselves).
Will there still be journalists? Presuming there will be (big media companies are starting to see the dangers of unmoderated contributions), what will they need to know?
Common sense tells me that the basic tenets of journalism haven’t actually changed that much - it’s the delivery modes that have. The 24-hour news framework is now a 24-hours-a-day framework (no wonder crusty journo bars have died out, as one of Mark Hamilton’s links told us).
I went teaching when I was 40. I was a burnt-out editor who’d spent five years trying to rescue a metro evening daily. I thought I’d retire, but the super wasn’t enough, so it was PR or teaching. An easy decision - and one I’ve never regretted.
Think about a career change, Tom. Teaching journalism is being paid to rave on about your life’s obsession. You’re ready for it.

]]> By: Jim Tucker http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74346 Jim Tucker Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:06:47 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74346 I'm a journalism teacher here at the bottom of the world (New Zealand) and I'm reading posts, blogs and stories like Tom's with growing alarm. Being this far out of the mainstream, we have an advantage - we can watch what the rest of the world does and when the trends hit here (the delay is getting shorter by the year) we try to avoid making youjr mistakes. The dilemma I face (after 25 years of journalism and 20 of teaching it) is what to tell aspiring students about the carnage going on in newsrooms overseas (at the beginning they're too busy on Bebo to look for themselves). Will there still be journalists? Presuming there will be (big media companies are starting to see the dangers of unmoderated contributions), what will they need to know? Common sense tells me that the basic tenets of journalism haven't actually changed that much - it's the delivery modes that have. The 24-hour news framework is now a 24-hours-a-day framework (no wonder crusty journo bars have died out, as one of Mark Hamilton's links told us). I went teaching when I was 40. I was a burnt out editor who'd spent five years trying top rescue a metro evening daily. I thought I'd retire, but the super wasn't enough, so it was PR or teaching. An easy decision - and one I've never regretted. Think about a career change, Tom. Teaching journalism is being paid to rave on about your life's obsession. You're ready for it. I’m a journalism teacher here at the bottom of the world (New Zealand) and I’m reading posts, blogs and stories like Tom’s with growing alarm. Being this far out of the mainstream, we have an advantage - we can watch what the rest of the world does and when the trends hit here (the delay is getting shorter by the year) we try to avoid making youjr mistakes.
The dilemma I face (after 25 years of journalism and 20 of teaching it) is what to tell aspiring students about the carnage going on in newsrooms overseas (at the beginning they’re too busy on Bebo to look for themselves).
Will there still be journalists? Presuming there will be (big media companies are starting to see the dangers of unmoderated contributions), what will they need to know?
Common sense tells me that the basic tenets of journalism haven’t actually changed that much - it’s the delivery modes that have. The 24-hour news framework is now a 24-hours-a-day framework (no wonder crusty journo bars have died out, as one of Mark Hamilton’s links told us).
I went teaching when I was 40. I was a burnt out editor who’d spent five years trying top rescue a metro evening daily. I thought I’d retire, but the super wasn’t enough, so it was PR or teaching. An easy decision - and one I’ve never regretted.
Think about a career change, Tom. Teaching journalism is being paid to rave on about your life’s obsession. You’re ready for it.

]]> By: Doug Milison http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74322 Doug Milison Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:27:16 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74322 Right on, Tom. Right on, Tom.

]]> By: Tim http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74317 Tim Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:27:30 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74317 Great post, Tom, although if it were me I'm not sure I would share all those personal details with the world. You also might want to engage the kid who created Angry Journalist, Kiyoshi Martinez. I was going to leave a comment on his blog, http://kiyoshimartinez.com/nerdlusus/2008/02/10/announcing-angryjournalistcom/ pointing him towards your post, but decided to leave that up to you. Sorry the world is the way it is, Tim Great post, Tom, although if it were me I’m not sure I would share all those personal details with the world.

You also might want to engage the kid who created Angry Journalist, Kiyoshi Martinez. I was going to leave a comment on his blog, http://kiyoshimartinez.com/nerdlusus/2008/02/10/announcing-angryjournalistcom/ pointing him towards your post, but decided to leave that up to you.

Sorry the world is the way it is,
Tim

]]> By: Todd http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74300 Todd Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:47:00 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74300 Personally, I think Angry Journalist should be called Boring Journalist. It's a snooze. Personally, I think Angry Journalist should be called Boring Journalist. It’s a snooze.

]]> By: Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Thursday a.m. squibs http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74297 Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Thursday a.m. squibs Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:29:53 +0000 http://minimediaguy.org/2008/03/20/pissy-poodles-cant-be-angry-journalists/#comment-74297 [...] Pissy Poodles Can’t Be Angry Journalists. Tom Abate is angry about angryjournalists.com. This is a passionate post about doing journalism that those in the trenches, and those who will be going into the trenches, should read. [...] [...] Pissy Poodles Can’t Be Angry Journalists. Tom Abate is angry about angryjournalists.com. This is a passionate post about doing journalism that those in the trenches, and those who will be going into the trenches, should read. [...]

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